Funny how they never quote Jesus when he said, "I am... the Truth".
They treat Jesus like he is little more than an errand boy who simply delivers prayers to his Father when you say the magic words: we-ask-all-this-in-Jesus-name-amen.
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Do you recognize the Truth? Watchtower July, 2024
by Listener inthe stated focus of this study article is.
focustraining ourselves to discern the difference between the truth we have learned from jehovah and the falsehoods promoted by satan and our opposers.. of course, the article goes on to claim that the truth is not only in the bible, but also from the watchtower organization.
the first of two qualities needed to discern truth is -.
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Sea Breeze
Teacher called me to the front of the class and called me a communist. It was a little traumatic but I didn’t let it get under my skin. Compartmentalization was my coping mechanism
Kids learn to supress trauma as a coping mechanism. Eventually when you are in a safe place it's necessary to deal with it if you want to heal.
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Can God Change his Mind?
by peacefulpete inis 31:yet he also is wise and will bring disaster and does not retract his words.. 1 sam 15: furthermore, the eternal one of israel does not lie or change his mind, for he is not man who changes his mind.. numbers 23: god is not a man who lies, or a son of man who changes his mind.
does he speak and not act, or promise and not fulfill?.
when the god you worship pronounces judgement, is he, really just issuing a warning or has the matter been determined through all the godly powers of insight, foresight and perfect judgement?
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Sea Breeze
Even though God is all-powerful, allowing Him to do everything that can be done, He cannot create round squares or make 2 +2 = 5 or do anything that is logically impossible.
2 Tim. 2: 13 says God cannot deny himself.
Logic and physical rules are descriptions of how God's mind works. That is why he "cannot" do certain things.... because he cannot deny himself. Many things we experience are simply descriptions of God's mind.
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Sea Breeze
My mom was kicked out of school every day in the 1940's for not saluting the flag. She went to a "Kingdom School" of some sort.... probably just a home school with a JW teacher. That was one of the issues that went to the Supreme Court.
I had a 4th grade teacher who lost her son in Vietnam that was particularly mean to me a another JW kid. She made us leave the room and go stand in the hall for the pledge of allegience every day.It sucked.
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Can God Change his Mind?
by peacefulpete inis 31:yet he also is wise and will bring disaster and does not retract his words.. 1 sam 15: furthermore, the eternal one of israel does not lie or change his mind, for he is not man who changes his mind.. numbers 23: god is not a man who lies, or a son of man who changes his mind.
does he speak and not act, or promise and not fulfill?.
when the god you worship pronounces judgement, is he, really just issuing a warning or has the matter been determined through all the godly powers of insight, foresight and perfect judgement?
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Open Theism
Open Theism is the thesis that, because God loves us and desires that we freely choose to reciprocate His love, He has made His knowledge of, and plans for, the future conditional upon our actions. Though omniscient, God does not know what we will freely do in the future. Though omnipotent, He has chosen to invite us to freely collaborate with Him in governing and developing His creation, thereby also allowing us the freedom to thwart His hopes for us. God desires that each of us freely enter into a loving and dynamic personal relationship with Him, and He has therefore left it open to us to choose for or against His will.
While Open Theists affirm that God knows all the truths that can be known, they claim that there simply are not yet truths about what will occur in the “open,” undetermined future. Alternatively, there are such contingent truths, but these truths cannot be known by anyone, including God.
Even though God is all-powerful, allowing Him to do everything that can be done, He cannot create round squares or make 2 +2 = 5 or do anything that is logically impossible. Omniscience is understood in a similar manner. God is all-knowing and can know all that can be known, but He cannot know the contingent future, since that too, is impossible. God knows all the possible ways the world might go at any point in time, but He does not know the one way the world will go, so long as some part of what will happen in the future is contingent. So, Open Theists oppose the claim of the sixteenth century Jesuit theologian, Luis de Molina, that God has “middle knowledge.”
Open Theists believe that Scripture teaches that God wanted to give us the freedom to choose to love or reject Him. In order for each of us to genuinely have a choice for which we are morally responsible, we must have the ability to do otherwise than we do. This is the distinctive necessary condition of what has come to be called libertarian freedom. God may intervene in the created world at any time, and He may determine that we act in ways of His choosing. But He cannot both respect our libertarian freedom and guarantee that we will do specific things freely. Thus, Open Theists believe that God has created a world in which He takes the risk that many of us will reject Him and act in ways opposed to Him, in order to give us the opportunity to freely choose to love and obey Him.
A lot of good solid Christians believe in Open Theism.
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Can God Change his Mind?
by peacefulpete inis 31:yet he also is wise and will bring disaster and does not retract his words.. 1 sam 15: furthermore, the eternal one of israel does not lie or change his mind, for he is not man who changes his mind.. numbers 23: god is not a man who lies, or a son of man who changes his mind.
does he speak and not act, or promise and not fulfill?.
when the god you worship pronounces judgement, is he, really just issuing a warning or has the matter been determined through all the godly powers of insight, foresight and perfect judgement?
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Sea Breeze
I think there is a difference between conditional declarations of God and unconditional determinations of God.
For instance, when God said, “I will destroy Nineveh in forty days,” He was speaking conditionally upon the Assyrians’ response. His message to Nineveh was a warning meant to provoke repentance, and His warning was successful.
An example of an unconditional declaration of God is the Lord’s promise to David, “Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me; your throne will be established forever” (2 Samuel 7:16). No conditions were stated or implied. No matter what David did or did not do, the word of the Lord would come to pass.
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Sea Breeze
What happened?
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Do JWs Really Say This?
by NotFormer ini stumbled, via a google search, upon a part of jw space that is usually heavily defended against outsiders like my good self.
in a discussion, someone started their post with "i (started doing x)... when the slave began to suggest doing so"*.
do pimis really talk that way?
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Sea Breeze
It’s old school. Probably from a multigenerational member.
I’m 4th gen. My mom and her sisters used that term all the time.
They would occasionally use the term “evil slave” in whispers to refer to the descendants on the original Bible students who didn’t follow Rutherford.
It all seems so silly now.
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First Half of the Book of Hebrews (Study Edition) Now Available Online
by Wonderment inapril 11, 2024 (source: jw.org) .
first half of the book of hebrews (study edition) now available online.
the first half of the bible book of hebrews (chapters 1-7) is now available in the study edition of the new world translation of the holy scriptures on jw.org and in jw library.
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Sea Breeze
Thankfully Fred Franz didn’t have anything to do with it.
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First Half of the Book of Hebrews (Study Edition) Now Available Online
by Wonderment inapril 11, 2024 (source: jw.org) .
first half of the book of hebrews (study edition) now available online.
the first half of the bible book of hebrews (chapters 1-7) is now available in the study edition of the new world translation of the holy scriptures on jw.org and in jw library.
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@ DesirousofChange
Because the entire church age is the dispensation that precedes the Kingdom.
The “last days” ends at the Rapture. The great tribulation is next followed by the Millennial Reign.
This is the Most common evangelical position with strong early church leader support and some Dead Sea scrolls as well as the book of Enoch which is quoted in scripture.